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- Subject: Forth FAQ: Applications done with Forth. (l/m 07.Nov.93)
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- Date: 15 Dec 93 01:40:07 GMT
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- [Thanks to everyone who has contributed information for this
- message. I have left the header and/or .signature lines in for
- attribution. Missing or incorrect attributions are a mistake...
- please help me correct any that are wrong. -dwp]
-
- If Forth has been around for 20+ years, what has it been used for?
-
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- Date: 16 Jun 1993 16:15:25 -0400 (EDT)
- From: koopman@cagate.res.utc.com (Philip Koopman)
- Message-Id: <9306162015.AA22610@casun2.res.utc.com>
-
- Elizabeth Rather's HOPL paper contains a number
- of examples (I don't have time to type them all
- in). SIGPLAN Notices vol. 28 no. 3, March 1993.
- CMU and Pitt probably both have copies.
-
- [I haven't had the time to look this up yet. If anyone has a copy
- handy and wants to send me the info, I would appreciate it. -dwp]
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- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 93 14:34:28 bst
- Message-Id: <9306091334.AA27065@hpc.lut.ac.uk>
- From: Merlin <N.U.Fitzsimons@loughborough.ac.uk> (MERLIN)
-
- A few years ago, I used a homebrew (well, I did it at the
- office...) FORTH on the Atari ST to produce a conversion of a C64
- game called OOPS - a kind of real-time logic puzzle based around
- symmetrical grids, designed by a guy called Jason Kendall from
- Salisbury, England. This received very good reviews in the C64
- version. Unfortunately, shortly after we delivered the 16 bit
- versions (PC, ST and Amiga - only the ST in FORTH, the rest in
- Assembler), the publisher, The Big Apple Entertainment Co Ltd (who
- despite their name were based in London) was closed down by its
- parent company, so the ST version was never released. A little
- while after, I left CygnusSoft to go and run a pub for a couple of
- years, so my ST FORTH never got used again - although I've still
- got a copy, if only I can find someone with an ST...
-
- In addition to all this boring reminiscence, In 1984-85 I worked
- for a digital systems engineering company called Jasmin
- Electronics, then based in Leicester, England, who used FORTH for
- all their software at that time. Their speciality was in Teletext
- systems. There's at least one Cable TV station in California who
- provided a Teletext service using Jasmin kit - one of the first
- things I worked on for them was a FORTH system that took news
- straight off the AP wire and formatted it into pages that were
- included directly into the Teletext magazine. The railway
- stations and airports of (at least) Europe are also littered with
- Jasmin Teletext information display systems, which were all,
- originally at least, written in FORTH. They also did a water
- pumping control system for the Rickmansworth area of England - it
- used a WAN of proprietary 68000-based kit, was grossly
- underpowered for the job, and was delivered massively late and
- over budget, which must have been why their salaries were so
- lousy... :-)
-
- [Email address from .signature: hunuf@lut.ac.uk -dwp]
-
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- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 00:17:39 -0500 (CDT)
- From: "Christopher A. Bongaarts"
- Message-Id: <Pine.3.05.9306090039.A23399-a100000@student.tc.umn.edu>
-
- Adventure Construction Set, by Stuart Smith. Published by
- Electronic Arts. The Commodore 64 version was written in forth,
- and this game featured incredible music and very good graphics (if
- you don't mind 160x200x4 graphics!)
-
- =-=-=-=-=-= Chris Bongaarts =-=-=-= Sir Taxi of the Wild Crew =-=-=-=-=-=
- Internet: bong0004@student.tc.umn.edu FidoNet 1:282/54 "Chris Bongaarts"
- taxi@tdkt.kksys.com Call the Game Center (612)942-7531
-
-
-
-
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- Subject: Southern Wisconsin FIG Chapter News
- Message-ID: <4638.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>
- Date: 9 Jul 93 10:53:26 GMT
-
- [Message has been editted for relevant excerpts. -dwp]
- Message 2 Thu Jul 08, 1993
- D.RUSKE1 [Dave] at 11:52 EDT
-
- After about half an hour of conversation amongst the group, Dave
- Ruske gave a talk about the use of Forth in two embedded
- applications done for ICOM, Inc. The first was an 8031-based
- operator access panel for an Allen-Bradley PLC-2; the second was a
- driver which loads onto the Allen-Bradley KT card (a Z80- based
- network card for PLC communications). LMI Metacompilers were used
- on both projects.
-
- Dr. Bob Lowenstein of Yerkes Observatory told the group about
- Yerk and how it is applied to telescope control and data
- acquisition. Yerk is an object-oriented Forth variant for the
- Mac, and is a public-domain product derived from Neon. One of
- the things Dr. Lowenstein uses this for is remotely controlling
- a telescope in New Mexico via the Internet. Yerk software will
- also be used to control two new telescopes being built at the
- South Pole.
-
- Matt Mercaldo showed and talked about the Modular Microprocessor
- Trainer being developed for use at Johns-Hopkins University.
- The unit uses two Motorola MC68HC11A8s with New Micros'
- Max-Forth on chip. The student can prototype projects on the
- unit and communicate with it using a terminal, or a keyboard and
- built-in LCD display. Matt provided the group with copies of a
- paper describing his work.
-
- Glenn Szejna described his use of Forth at Nicolet Instruments.
- Several people in the group had used Nicolet oscilloscopes,
- unaware that Glenn's Forth code was running under the hood.
-
- Scott Woods discussed his use of Forth, including his current
- project, firmware for an industrial metal detector. This device
- will be used for such things as preventing machine screws from
- showing up in your breakfast cereal.
-
- Olaf Meding described Amtelco's use of polyForth in programming
- their systems for telephone answering services [see Olaf's
- article "Forth-Based Message Service" in the January/February
- 1993 Forth Dimensions]. The Amtelco EVE (Electronic Video
- Exchange] system is the largest and most sophisicated system of
- its kind, and has gained 70% of the answering service market.
-
- James Heichek demonstrated VORCOMP, a public-domain directory
- and file compare utility written in his own version of Forth.
- James talked about why he believed the stack manipulation words
- in Forth became a hindrance to his work, and how he added local
- variables to clean up his code. He is currently developing
- educational software.
-
- Olaf Meding gave a brief tour of the "Introduction to Forth" disk
- and demonstrated the loading of C. H. Ting's tutorial in F-PC.
- Along the way, the F-PC single-step debugger was also
- demonstrated. According to Julian V. Noble, the "Introduction to
- Forth" disk "was prepared and disseminated by Prof. Julian V.
- Noble of the University of Virginia, with the kind permission of
- the authors of the tutorials and files thereon (C.H. Ting, Jack
- Brown, Phil Koopman and me), as a public service, under the
- auspices of FIG, ACM/SIGForth and Mechum Banks Publishing."
-
- By this time it was past 10 pm and the meeting began to break up,
- but Dr. Lowenstein took some time to demonstrate Yerk and impart
- some insider knowledge to Paul Anderson. Paul is new to Forth and
- plans on building a system to monitor and control model railroads
- via a Mac.
-
- [Any inaccuracies in this report are solely my fault. -DR]
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